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On Grief and Revolution: Q&A and event video at Deceleration

The lovely folks at Deceleration, a Texas-based independent news outlet, filmed my San Antonio event with the brilliant Alex Birnel, Ananda Tomas and Joleen Garcia. Alex also did a further interview with me for Deceleration’s site, and editor Greg Harman wrote this lovely editor’s note:

Entering 2025 with MAGA ascendant means a physical and psychic scramble as we prepare to protect those around us who are immediately vulnerable to long promised campaigns of state violence. It is increasingly clear that Trump 2.0 will also require surviving and fighting an ‘imperial’ presidency committed to redrawing international borders, historically a recipe for large-scale conflict. The emotional toll of this onslaught of threats, followed by the groveling of too many who could have provided a degree of buffer for the less resourced, has put “brace for impact” into regular journalistic usage. MAGA at home and abroad means the fracturing and crushing of undocumented families, of trans and queer people, a constant labeling and weeding out of a fabricated “enemy within” to justify the erosion of rights, and a raffling off to the highest bidder (entry price $1B) of the marvelous network of beings often sterilized as the “environment” as the Earth continues to boil and spark from fossil-fueled abuse. Deceleration offers this conversation, and many more to come, in the hopes that those working for justice will make heartfelt and thoughtful space for the needs of the broad-based inter-generational movement materializing now. It is a movement full of pain and humor. Of joy and terror. Of grief and all stages of grieving. Prepare room.

You can read the whole thing at Deceleration, and watch the video above.

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Why loving your job isn’t always a good thing and can be a trap at Elle Spain

Marita Alonso interviewed me about Work Won’t Love You Back for Elle Spain. She writes:

“You’re a freelancer, right?” We’re two minutes into our conversation and essayist Sarah Jaffe has already warned us from the way I talk about work that I don’t know what a payroll is. I confess to her straight away that I was not, am not, and will not be one of those people who claim to 
“love their job” above all else, and that’s precisely what she talks about in ‘‘Trabajar. Un amor no correspondido’’ (Capitán Swing, 2024), a book that examines why “doing what you like” is a recipe for exploitation that generates a new tyranny of work in which we happily accept tasks that take over our lives. We have grown up with the idea that work is not just a way to make a living; but a vocation that completes us and that we love. Jaffe assures us that this lie prevents us from seeing the cracks in the labor system and drives us to fall into formulas of exploitation and accept precarious working conditions in the hope that tomorrow, perhaps, things will change…

Read the whole thing at Elle Spain
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«I started to wonder if we are taught to love our work as a kind of anesthesia» at Ethic

Ariadna Romans interviewed me about Work Won’t Love You Back at Ethic. She writes:

“Do what you love and you’ll never work a day in your life,” goes a popular saying. But Sarah Jaffe says that’s a lie. The American writer and journalist has spent years specializing in labor struggles and political power, exploring how work affects our daily lives and our ways of understanding human life. She has worked for outlets such as The New York Times, The Guardian, and The Nation, and has also been a waitress, a bicycle mechanic, and a social media consultant, cleaned up trash, served ice cream, and explained Soviet communism to high school students. She now devotes her working time to her column in The Progressive and co-hosts the podcasts Belabored and Heart Reacts. Her book 
Trabajar: un amor no correspondido (Capitán Swing) has just been translated into Spanish.

Read the whole thing at Ethic
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“Work isn’t designed to make us happy, it’s designed to do something else” at La Voz de Galicia

Alejandra Ceballos interviewed me about Work Won’t Love You Back for La Voz de Galicia newspaper. She writes:

That work absorbs us, that we no longer have fair wages, that housing prices are rising, but not salaries; that young people are lazy; that nobody wants to work; that we are better off now than before. The discourse on working conditions in this century in the Western world is disparate, however, Sarah Jaffe has a very clear position. She arrives in Spain with her book Trabajar, un amor no correspondido (Capitán Swing) and exposes how the system makes things difficult for the working class.

Read the whole thing at La Voz de Galicia
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“We’ve realized that your boss doesn’t care if you die” at El Confidencial

Hector Garcia Barnes interviewed me about Work Won’t Love You Back for El Confidencial. He writes:

Since Sarah Jaffe published Trabajar: Un amor no correspondido Captain Swing), three of its editors have left their jobs. Although they have generally continued in the publishing world at a slower pace, one of them has opted for viticulture. The New Orleans-based journalist tells the story perhaps to point out that the first English edition of the book, published in the middle of the pandemic, was 
a premonition of what was about to happen around the world .

Read the whole thing at El Confidencial
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“No one wants to admit that they are rich or poor. Everyone wants to be middle class” at El Pais

Rafa de Miguel interviewed me for El Pais! He writes:

Essayist Sarah Jaffe (Norwood, Massachusetts, 44 years old) knows the world of work and all its variants from top to bottom. She has been a waitress, repaired bicycles and has been a social media consultant; she has sold ice cream, cleaned and explained Soviet communism to high school students. Her book ‘Trabajar. Un amor no correspondido’ (Capitan Swing publishing house) is a slap in the face that opens our eyes to fictions such as love for the profession or myths such as that of the ‘white working class’. The working class is a concept that evolves, and today takes the form of immigrant carers who are exploited in the dependency assistance sector.

Read the whole thing at El Pais
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“Pray for the dead, fight like hell for the living” at The Meteor

Samhita Mukhopadhyay interviewed me for The Meteor! She writes:

Collective grief plays a profound role in our politics; it can unite us and inspire change. But we don’t often give grief the space to truly transform us into better political citizens.

Read the whole thing at The Meteor.

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Interview at Workday: Every Life Is a World: Sarah Jaffe on the Power of Collective Grief

Amie Stager at Workday magazine interviewed me about From the Ashes, and shared some of her own personal grief story in this lovely piece. She writes:

In this book, organizers share their stories of grief and power in From the Ashes, including several from Minneapolis. The George Floyd uprisings, and the demonstrations of collective grief that have followed police brutality in the U.S., are threaded into a wider story on the history and power of grief. Jaffe carefully threads these stories with her own, alongside criticism of the death-making systems and repressive cultures leading us toward planetary catastrophe and collapse. What results is a poetic call for working-class movements everywhere to gather up our ghosts, of which there are many, and set them free.

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Fighting Like Hell: A conversation at The Baffler

I spoke with the excellent Hannah Proctor once again; this time she interviewed me about my book for the Baffler:

Walter Benjamin’s messianic historical materialism is getting at something about the ways we can’t escape history entirely. At Standing Rock the bulldozers that were coming through to dig the Dakota Access pipeline literally turned up graves. Rather than thinking that we can bring back the dead, it’s important to think that things can get worse. In terms of Holocaust piety, the dead are being used in many cases in ways they would not want to be, in that they’re being used as justifications for war.

I contrast at some point, Mother Jones saying, “Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living” with the famous Joe Hill phrase “Don’t mourn, organize.” I think we have to mourn and organize.

Grief is inevitable. We’re still mortal—Peter Thiel is not going to solve that. We’re all going to die. People we love will die. But often it will not be dramatic or horrific. It will just be a thing that is a natural outcome of being human. We can’t solve grief. We’re going to have to do it. But there are so many horrific ways to die that we can stop, that we can change. During Covid, people I talked to who lost parents couldn’t be there with them. I was upended by the death of my father, but I could see him. I could visit him in the hospital. I could say goodbye.

What does justice look like in an expansive way that reaches into the past as well as into the future?

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“We Have to Diminish the Spaces Between People”: A conversation with Kelly Hayes and Eman Abdelhadi

After our panel at the Socialism conference, I spoke for a bit longer with Kelly Hayes and Eman Abdelhadi about grief, organizing, and the struggles we’re in right now. Kelly ran our conversation in her newsletter (which you should subscribe to!) and then it was reprinted in Truthout.


This is why, I think, we do this work, at the end of the day: we are the kinds of people who can’t simply go through the world unhurt by all that is going on around us even if we, at a given time, have managed to insulate ourselves from being materially damaged by it. We see what is happening in the world, from Gaza to our own neighborhoods, and it hurts. We might have the best political analysis in the world, but we got there because we cared about the world around us.